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Matthew Amster-Burton 0:00
Hi I'm Matthew.
Molly 0:05
I'm Molly
Matthew Amster-Burton 0:05
and this is Phil belt, the show where we cook something delicious. Eat it all and you can't happen.
Molly 0:10
Today we are talking about pizza rolls. It's episode 601. Yeah, if you were listening last week we recorded episode 600 while drinking some delicious champagne, which now we're going to pour ourselves another glass of to enjoy with pizza rolls. Yeah.
Matthew Amster-Burton 0:25
So, Molly, do you have any pizza rolls memory? So we define what these things are before? Or does everyone know
Molly 0:31
I think we should define Okay, so pizza rolls are also called pizza snack rolls pizza bites. You may have just heard of them as Tinos pizza rolls. We're talking here about a frozen food product that consists of like bite sized breaded pizza pockets with tomato sauce on the inside and well at least what Wikipedia describes as imitation cheese. Oh, wow. And then various pizza toppings I
Matthew Amster-Burton 0:58
think of it as like dangerously hot goo.
Molly 1:01
Okay. And you know what's weird is that I think if I'm remembering correctly when I when I went to the Wikipedia page for pizza rolls, the picture that it had was of these things that look like little like spy rolls as though it was like a Swiss cake roll
Matthew Amster-Burton 1:16
five of those pizza pinwheels which is a recipe that I used to make
Molly 1:20
Ah, okay, okay.
Matthew Amster-Burton 1:23
No, these are
Molly 1:24
like little tiny pockets. Yeah, and yeah, they're designed to be microwaved or warmed in the oven. How are these different from Hot Pocket?
Matthew Amster-Burton 1:32
So a Hot Pocket is like a single serving like large pocket like a couch zone like a couch is like folded over but it definitely like inspired by a kalsa okay. And these these are meant to be like, you know, a like bite sized snack food that you like, keep reaching for Okay, and eat them until you have regrets then
Molly 1:54
I've never eaten the Okay,
Matthew Amster-Burton 1:56
I'm excited. I haven't had these in quite a while. When I was a kid. They were called Geno's, pizza rolls. They're now Tinos pizza rolls and they're they're some like knockoffs, but I just got the Tinos Great. These were a highly desired snack food when I was a kid like if you could get your parents to buy them or if you could go to a friend's house who had them. We hit the jackpot and would you just
Molly 2:15
call them like Do you have any Geno's or would you call them like Geno's? Pizza Rolls?
Matthew Amster-Burton 2:20
I feel like we just called them pizza roll pizza rolls.
Molly 2:22
Okay. Okay.
Matthew Amster-Burton 2:23
And yeah, but like every kid wanted these.
Molly 2:25
Well, I guess I wasn't every kid Matthew. Well, I mean, every
Matthew Amster-Burton 2:29
kid in my school, okay,
Molly 2:31
I was too busy having pizza bagels? Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Amster-Burton 2:35
I think Bagel Bites started around the same time. Well, so that was good.
Molly 2:39
So Matthew, I did the research on this episode, and I really had a great time getting to know the man behind Geno's pizza. Oh, I'm
Matthew Amster-Burton 2:46
so glad I didn't know I didn't know there was going to be interesting corporate history on this but I kind of guessed there would be Yeah.
Molly 2:52
And you know, hopefully Gino will make an appearance today. The way that Mrs. Culberson did in the deal, like bread. I've radio likes croutons.
Matthew Amster-Burton 3:01
Oh no no, we called it old bread cubes. We never said the word croutons on that episode people were very confused. We had to take the episode down bread no bread cubes
Molly 3:17
I called my grandfather.
Matthew Amster-Burton 3:19
I feel like but you're you're like baiting me to do it and Italian accent
Molly 3:24
a little bit okay, I'm gonna need you to maybe speak for Gino here in a little while speak for Gina. Okay, all right. So here's the deal. So these days the words pizza rolls put together are trademarked by General Mills. Okay, okay. Pizza Rolls were created in Duluth, Minnesota. All right, okay. By Italian food industry entrepreneur, Gino Powell Lucci. Okay, I'm pronouncing that right. I like it. Okay, who specialized in canned and frozen Chinese food. Okay, okay, and we're going to talk more about him in a minute. I'm gonna give you like the flyover of the pizza roll then we'll come back to Gino. So Geno's began using the pizza rolls trademark in 1967. Then in 1985, he sold Geno's to Pillsbury, which owned Tinos pizza. Okay. And in 1993, the roles were rebranded as to Tinos. Yeah, I
Matthew Amster-Burton 4:16
kind of remember this happened. Yeah, you would have been like 18. Yeah, no, it was it was pretty pivotal.
Molly 4:22
Yeah, for sure. Did you feel like lost?
Matthew Amster-Burton 4:25
Yeah, no, I was like, I was standing there in my grocer's freezer case like just just saying, Chino. Chino, Gino. Like, like I was calling for Beetlejuice.
Molly 4:34
Yes. So So Pillsbury then sold to General Mills.
Matthew Amster-Burton 4:38
Reverend. But Beetlejuice again. We're glad to be rebranded to Beatle drink because they said there wasn't an actual Beatles in it so dumb.
Molly 4:53
Okay, anyway, but like, here's something that's interesting. So after selling Geno's to Pillsbury Mr Paolucci aka Gino founded Louis Geno's. Okay and also started the michelina is brand of Italian foods
Matthew Amster-Burton 5:08
I loved michelina Yes, I ate so many of
Molly 5:12
my childhood friend Jennifer if you opened their freezer where my family had like Stouffer is Turkey touch with Twizy
Matthew Amster-Burton 5:19
Do you want to touch with you?
Molly 5:22
Know, my family had Stouffer as Turkey Tetrazzini Jennifer's family had michelina has fettuccine alfredo and absolutely jacked Stag stag.
Matthew Amster-Burton 5:32
I love this michelina is Penny like Penny with sausage that the penny we're like little like half full length Penny legs. You can eat with either with a spoon is great.
Molly 5:42
michelina is was named after Geno's mother. Okay,
Matthew Amster-Burton 5:45
okay. michelina pallucci Yeah, I
Molly 5:48
guess so. So here's the real fun we're gonna go deep on on Gino All right, so we're gonna go deep into Gino like the time we went into inside. Dennis Quaid?
Matthew Amster-Burton 5:57
Yeah.
Molly 6:00
I love that we're referencing a movie that is literally 35 years old.
Speaker 3 6:05
That was not a success. We clearly made an impression.
Matthew Amster-Burton 6:11
It made so much an impression that we missed remembered it as someone going inside Dennis Quaid when he would actually do Dennis glade went inside Barton show. I think so.
Unknown Speaker 6:22
Okay, this makes sense. Yeah, we should we should watch.
Molly 6:24
Sure it is the more like comedic actors you can imagine him like freaking out as this thing is this little tiny nano ship is bouncing around.
Matthew Amster-Burton 6:31
Oh, yeah, they should have done it the other way around.
Molly 6:35
I'd like to go inside Dennis Quaid. Yeah, I bet I mean, when he was younger, yeah. Okay, so yeah, let's let's go deep on Luigino Gino, as he's known, okay, Francesco pallucci. Gu started over 70 companies. Seven zero. Among the best known being bellissimo food, which used to be called michelina. Okay, his pizza rolls product. And then also the chunking line of Chinese food.
Matthew Amster-Burton 7:01
Oh, I remember the chunking Chinese foods so well, because this was a thing that like, like it was sold in like candy. Yep. Right. Yep. And like, I remember asking my mom, can we get that and she's like, You are not going to like that. And I think she was right.
Molly 7:15
We're going to talk more about that in just a second. So Gina was born in 1918 in the mining town of Aurora, Minnesota, okay, and he described himself as a peddler from the Iron Range.
Matthew Amster-Burton 7:27
What does it look like selling things? In the Iron Range is like where they mined iron, I
Molly 7:33
guess. Yeah. Okay, so, so his parents names were at Toray and michelina. And they had recently immigrated from a small village in the Marquet region of Italy. And his dad was a miner in one of the you know, the iron mines near Aurora. Not a peddler an actual miner. That's correct. His mother michelina ran a small grocery store out of the family home. She was a peddler. She was during Prohibition, she sold bootleg wine and also ran an illegal bar. Oh, if
Matthew Amster-Burton 8:03
only there was like a cool word for any illegal bar. Yeah, okay listeners listeners.
Molly 8:09
Anyway, michelina was I mean, it was truly a legend in her sounds like it. So according to his obituary, which I found, Gino.
Matthew Amster-Burton 8:19
Do you want to metal Gino
Molly 8:21
began his career in the food business at age 16. And here's how it happened. Okay, so one day the refrigerator unit in the store malfunctioned and 18 crates of bananas were exposed to ammonia fumes. Okay. Okay. The store owner unclear if this is michelina Who the store owner considered the fruit ruined because the skin of the banana has changed color. But Gino was like, Hey, I think that we could charge more for this and call it an Argentine banana. Okay, so apparently what he shouted to passers by, was get your Argentine bananas. You may not have another chances.
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:00
Okay. Apparently Do you mind other chances? Okay, but yeah, you got to say yes, chances and then it still doesn't rhyme.
Molly 9:09
Okay. He's sold out in three hours. Okay. Couple of questions. Okay. Okay.
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:12
What color did they turn? Do you think it was just
Molly 9:16
ripen? Yeah, the skin would turn brown right away.
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:19
Were they safe to eat? And like Did he receive I
Molly 9:24
don't think he did. Okay. According to this would have been like 19 for 1934. According to his obituary, the bananas were harmless.
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:35
Oh, okay. Because nobody died. Well, I mean, he did
Molly 9:38
that many years later. Alright, so then in the 1940s, he developed the chunking line of canned Chinese food products.
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:47
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm imagining like him on the phone with like the obituary editor at the at the paper and like, be sure to put in there that those bananas were harmless. Who aren't you dead?
Molly 9:57
So according to the 19 seven Ready to book the very, very rich and how they got back way by max power. He said he started the guesses because while he loved Chinese food he found it too bland. Oh God thought it would benefit from a little Italian spicing.
Matthew Amster-Burton 10:19
Yeah, right.
Molly 10:20
Oh, Gino pallucci. Okay, so here's the story. This is verbatim from his obituary. After making a batch and canning it he took some samples to a supermarket executive to convince him to try it out and to persuade him to stock it on opening the can pallucci found to his horror that the top of the cans contents included a whole cooked grasshopper. Fortunately, the can had been opened in such a way that the lid was facing the executive so that only pallucci could see the contents thinking quickly. Paolucci told the executive This looks so good, I'm going to taste it myself. Then he took one of two spoons that were lying on the table reached into the can quickly dug out a heaping spoonful which included the Grasshopper and ate it. Wow. He then offered the can to the executive who sampled a separate spoonful liked it and placed a large order. Oh, this says just is so much about Gino pallucci his version of Chinese food I mean, we should put you know real quotes around Chinese food here quotes real real quotes. His version of Chinese food was heavily modified obviously to cater to the food preferences of the European immigrants in his area and also to Americans have similar ethnic origins. And he did this of course by adding Italian spices I have no I mean like a Deeth this is like oregano was just gonna shops. Or like
Matthew Amster-Burton 11:45
I don't know, can you please grab a couple of napkins? Oh, I'll get I'll Get more champagnes
Molly 11:49
looks like an injury waiting to happen. This plate of totino
Matthew Amster-Burton 11:54
they still they still leak out the side just like they did when I was a kid. So chunking
Molly 11:59
became so successful selling like canned chow mein and chop suey that Gerald Ford when President quipped, what could be more American than a business built on a good Italian recipe for chop suey? Oh, Gino sold chunking to the RJ Reynolds Tobacco Company. This all just really comes full circle in 1966 for $63 million.
Matthew Amster-Burton 12:27
This is a real American story. Right? Yeah, there's there's like vertical integration in the food industry. There's like food safety like like, you know papering over food safety issues. There's casual racism. There's like, right this is this is like America, man with copper. Okay, so we've got we got pepperoni over here and combination over here. Oh, is it hot? Oh, yeah. No, that that's kind of what that's one of the main things I remember about these is they're just precede these like, they will burn your mouth so hard. I mean, you we can like wait till they cooled down a little but I'm so hungry.
Molly 13:02
Okay, so here's the chunking origin story.
Matthew Amster-Burton 13:06
Did you ever try and market like a canned scallion pancake? God
Molly 13:10
Okay, but no, get this is this just gets weirder. Okay, so here's the origin story of the chunking brand. While working as a traveling garlic salesman. Gino came across a Japanese community in Minneapolis that grew bean sprouts indoors in hydroponic gardens. He was fascinated with the fact that they could grow year round Despite the harsh winters there in Minnesota and he began cultivating his own stock and selling the sprouts to restaurants as a salad ingredient. And when he was doing this, you know passing through town selling as beansprouts he saw that a lot of Chinese restaurants were doing you know takeout but that grocery stores didn't offer like prepared Chinese dishes. Okay. He says the food industry was missing the boat allowing restaurants to handle all the take home business. He once said he came up with his own Chop Suey recipe by canning his sprouts and adding bits of celery pimentos and an Italian herb mixture suggested by his mother, that sounds dire. Uh huh. In 1947, he was loaned $2,500 by a friend and he started chunking and beginning in 1960, he hired the radio comedian Stan Freeburg to host the chunking chow mein hours your favorite radio comedian. In honor of Chinese New Year Freeburg interspersed his broadcast with commercials featuring the Cheon Kingston Trio, and folk songs such as Oh, handle me down my walking chowmein I don't even get the Joe. I don't either. Some of Mr. pehlu cheese critics claimed he was capitalizing on Chinese heritage there he's outsize promotion of the holiday. That's crazy. Weird in one stunt, Mr. pallucci hold you know our radio comedian down La Cienega. Boulevard in Los Angeles in a rickshaw
Matthew Amster-Burton 15:02
this is all perfect. This is all totally unproblematic.
Molly 15:06
It's horrifying. Gino was featured in the TV show lifestyles of the rich and famous. And do you do you want to read a little bit about where the pizza rolls came from? Oh, my God, this was hold heat. Oh,
Matthew Amster-Burton 15:19
pretty good. That's really good. Okay, so back to the pizza rolls. According to the obituary. This must have been a long obituary.
Molly 15:25
So what I also want to say is in the obituary, there was this thing about like Stan Freeburg and capitalizing on Chinese heritage Freeburg called
Matthew Amster-Burton 15:34
up the the obituary the paper like put me in there put me in all the obituaries I've ever radio comedian. Telephone comedian.
Molly 15:45
I really liked the champagne with the pizza right? I
Speaker 3 15:48
knew it was gonna be good. Oh, this is this is great. Oh, we are living this is business. Fantastic. Okay, all right. Go on. So
Molly 15:55
tell us tell us how the pizza rolls came to Okay,
Matthew Amster-Burton 15:57
so quote using a machine he invented to prepare chunking egg rolls Mr. pallucci replaced the innards of the Chinese hors d'oeuvre with traditional pizza toppings. And you know, you can see it's got like the bubbles of like, you know, a Americans Chinese American style egg roll wrapper. Yep, not a bad idea. Honestly.
Molly 16:15
Apparently, after he sold the brand to Pillsbury and what like 1985 or something I think I said he was quoted as saying I should have kept the pizza roll. It's something that'll damn near live forever.
Matthew Amster-Burton 16:28
Gino, however, did not live forever. He died in 2011 at the age of 93. That's right. How many pizza rolls Do you think he ate per day? On average? Because one thing one thing I noticed is that when I was a kid that Geno's pizza rolls would come in like a cardboard box and there'd be maybe like 20 of them in there. The smallest size you can buy now is 50. Really? Yes. Wow, a much larger bag also. So I bought 100 of these things just so we can try two different flavors, which tastes the same they do
Molly 16:57
they taste exactly the same. Apparently he at one point this was before he died, visited his ancestors village in Italy where he paid for new bells to be installed in a church and he told The Washington Post in 1978. They're the biggest damn things in the world. The people there are still mad at me. It's impossible to sleep very late in the morning. And this is also quoted in his obituary.
Matthew Amster-Burton 17:19
Do you get the sense that he's kind of like a Donald Trump like figure a little bit? Yeah, no,
Unknown Speaker 17:24
he's a wreck. Yes. Wow.
Molly 17:32
You know what, I think I prefer the pepperoni ones. I don't like the taste of the sausage in the combo. What do you think? I think the pepperoni ones got crispy are also so touchiness pizza rolls obviously have been around forever. In 2015 they apparently got a real boost from a Saturday Night Live skit. A real like satire on the tradition of American football watching and
Matthew Amster-Burton 17:59
you really, really sad that like an anthropologist who just arrived from Venus.
Molly 18:05
Well, I am for I am a watcher that's better for Mars, etc. Anyway, but I think we should watch the skits so that we can talk about them. Okay, and you have to see the first one before we can watch the second one.
Matthew Amster-Burton 18:17
Seeing all of these but no, you've seen Sure. Like they're very, very popular sketches. Really happy to watch them again. You
Molly 18:25
move to the pizza rolls really far away. So you've seen the Kristen Stewart one
Matthew Amster-Burton 18:29
too. Yeah, it's hilarious. Oh, God, do you still want to watch him?
Molly 18:33
No, I guess we don't have to. Okay. What I really like about them. I mean, they're like so random. I mean, the fact that they involve totino is really it has nothing to do it's a fake to Tinos ad, right. Do you want to talk a little bit about them?
Matthew Amster-Burton 18:46
Sure. Like the gist of the I mean, just just go watch them. We'll we'll link to them. But like the idea is like there's a bunch of dudes on the couch watching the game and like calling for like the women in the kitchen to bring them more to Tinos. Then things happen from there. Anyway, I wonder what I guess this happened after after Gino pallucci died because I would have liked to get his take.
Molly 19:09
Yeah, unfortunately, he did not live to see his pizza rolls inspire a love affair between Kristen Stewart and
Matthew Amster-Burton 19:16
Vanessa Bayer
Molly 19:21
says it so many times. Hungry guys. Just makes your skin crawl. I know it's so well done. Okay. Anyway, now we've eaten some pizza rolls.
Matthew Amster-Burton 19:31
Yeah, I'm glad we did. I'm gonna continue eating because I'm gonna
Molly 19:35
keep eating them too. But I'm kind of I mean, they're tasty, but they're like, not as tasty as I want them to be sure, but it really does taste like an egg roll like an Americanized egg roll skin.
Matthew Amster-Burton 19:46
I wanted there to be like a spicy one, which I didn't see at Safeway.
Molly 19:50
Okay, is there anything else we should say?
Matthew Amster-Burton 19:53
No, I think I think I'm still I'm still recovering from like all of the all the things that I learned from the obituary of genome pallu She Yeah, yeah. What what paper did this obituary run in?
Molly 20:03
I want to say the Washington Post. Okay. Do you think it remember? Do you think it's too
Matthew Amster-Burton 20:07
late to like call and get them to put more stuff and
Molly 20:12
maybe just a little bit, Matthew. Hey, we've got some spilled mail this week. Yes.
Matthew Amster-Burton 20:24
And it's from listener Audra. Hey, Molly. Hey, Matthew. Greetings from the heart of Molly's old stomping grounds. This is longtime listener Audrey in Oklahoma City. My kids go to Cassidy. I live across the street from the people who used to own Crescent Margot. And so my good friends live in Molly's old house and Elmhurst. I think I think God listener Audrey is trying to like take your life.
Molly 20:43
I feel old life my old life. It's fine. You can have it.
Matthew Amster-Burton 20:47
Okay, wait, Chris, question for you listener Audrey. Before we even get to your question. Do the people who used to own Crescent market have the suit of armor in their house? Oh, good question. Like on their lawn.
Molly 20:57
Also, how did you know that was my old house? sign outside like host Molly lived here plaque like 1993 to 1997.
Matthew Amster-Burton 21:10
Okay, does Yeah, it's
Unknown Speaker 21:11
a good question. Okay.
Matthew Amster-Burton 21:12
Okay. Yeah, no spilled milk. Now. It's now the segment where we ask the listeners questions. Here's my question. What is food service look like in your homes? That is to say, who serves up dinner? Do you put food in serving bowls on the table? Or just everyone just helped themselves from the pots and pans on the stove? Do you ever set up a buffet in the kitchen? Or is that something that only happens when you have company? Do you ever wait on your spouse's, like on date night or on their birthday? You guys are the reason I look forward to Thursdays?
Molly 21:38
I really great question. Yeah, yeah. So I'm the one who serves up dinner, whoever makes dinner serves dinner, we don't tend to plate dinner at our house, we tend to like you serve yourself. And sometimes we sort of put the pots and pans on the kitchen table. And I have a couple of trivets for that purpose. Yep. I also will occasionally set up a little buffet like next to the stove. Yeah, no, I don't know how I make the decision between the two if okay, if there's something that is like on a sheet pan, like if I've roasted broccoli, sure one of the sheet pan steppers, I will transfer that into a serving bowl. Okay, for sure. So that I can put it on the table because I don't ever I don't ever, like put a sheet pan on the table. Like who can do that? No, I don't. But yeah, I would say in general, I'm like, 5050 on whether I plate things or serve them out of the Dutch oven or sauce pan or whatever. Yeah,
Matthew Amster-Burton 22:37
I think I would say all the same things you just said. But like, I have one one thing to add. And also one question for you. A question for you. Is there a thing that you always say when dinner is ready to like call the family to the table? I always say no. I always say Okay, so I used to always say please to the table, which is a title of an Ania Vaughn Bramson Russian cookbook. But then, like, people got annoyed with that, because it's annoying. It's an old saying, please come to the table.
Molly 23:03
Okay, I wow, that's so direct. I think I take a more passive approach and say, dinner's ready. And then I proceed to get mad when people don't come to perfect. Yeah. And to answer the question, do you ever wait on your spouse like on a date night or their birthday? No, my spouse, my spouse likes to serve themself. And I mean, that's not a knock against spouses who like the who don't
Matthew Amster-Burton 23:33
know if you'd like breakfast in bed? You're a garbage
Molly 23:38
Yeah, no, I, um, both my spouse and I I think are pretty particular about the way we like our food or sure you know what I mean? So it would never occur to me to plate something for my spouse or to serve them something without asking them if they wanted it.
Matthew Amster-Burton 23:55
Yeah. So you know, I will we will often have like something on rice and people will like serve their own rice out of the rice cooker and then like the Kazu are topping is at the table. And like if we're doing like something with a bunch of a bunch of elements like tacos, or burritos, which we will always call taco supreme or burrito supreme would regardless of how supreme or not supreme it is. I'll put that stuff like on the like the little breakfast bar behind the sink usually. And the other thing I have to say is like something that's started during the pandemic and has stuck around is that we usually eat dinner in front of the TV. Oh, yeah, you know,
Molly 24:34
it's great. We began doing that a lot more during the pandemic, I would say ash and I tend to do that a lot when June isn't home when June is home we our whole evening just kind of gets shortened because now June has like after school things that they do. And then we're trying to get them in bed at a decent time. So we tend to not watch TV on the nights we have June. Yeah, but Ashton, I do love to eat in front of a show. Another thing and I love is to play banana grams while eating Wow, you don't get like sauce on them. No, but and this is another thing that can really it can also I tend to be a really fast eater. And eating banana grams is really nice because
Matthew Amster-Burton 25:14
I know if you're if you're Bananagrams get exposed to ammonia, it's okay to eat. I learned this I learned this from reading from reading the obituary section, which is where I get all my health news.
Molly 25:32
Bananagrams is really nice because it slows me down. Like, you know, I'm playing at the same time that I'm eating. And ash and I are kind of we're very well matched to Bananagrams. And we both I would say put equal value on speed and like impressive words. So we don't just play for speed. We're also playing to like, impress each other. Oh, I
Unknown Speaker 25:54
love it. So yeah,
Matthew Amster-Burton 25:56
we're like, try it try and and make dirty words. Oh, all the time. Excellent.
Molly 26:00
We have done I'm sure I've said this on the show before but we've also done like themed Bananagrams like, we were listening to a book about Chernobyl together for a while. Nothing nothing sexier than that. And we were doing like projects around the house. We listened to a book called Midnight and Chernobyl, which we came to call just share nobes. And we really enjoyed this book. We were both riveted by it. Sure. But anyway, after we finished watching it, we then played a number of Chernobyl themed games of banana green. Wow. Where you could have words like boom, boy, and like you could also use proper nouns like legato salve or Valarie or Boris or things like that. Sure.
Matthew Amster-Burton 26:42
These are all things I know about to bore on. Yeah. Or spent rods spent rods which were that would also work for the for the like sexy run. Yeah. Okay, great. I think that totally answers listener AUDIENCE QUESTION But listener Audrey is seriously getting get in touch. We want to know like, how long have you been scoping out Molly's house? Yeah. What if she's just been like, get like, you know, used to I used to like, you know, get at our binoculars and like, you know, while you live there.
Molly 27:11
Yeah. Do you know which room was my bedroom? Do you?
Matthew Amster-Burton 27:13
Yeah, Molly, do you have a now but wow, I do.
Molly 27:23
So, you know, I tried to look up what episode it was with that. I mentioned Carl Phillips, the poet Carl Phillips in my now but Well, I mentioned his book. My trade is mystery, which is a book about writing. That was a previous now but wow. But Carl Phillips is my now but wow. Again this week because he recently as in back in May. We're recording this in May, he won the Pulitzer Prize for poetry. And that's a pretty big prize, I think prize. So yeah, Carl Phillips won the 2023 Pulitzer Prize for poetry. So well deserved the collection he won for is called then the war. And I was able to reserve a copy of it through Seattle Public Library. And I'm just I mean, his poetry is really it's, it's it's challenging. I feel like I've had to teach myself how to read it. Okay. And I'm just Yeah, it's so it is so well deserved. I'm thrilled for him. So check out his collection, then the war.
Matthew Amster-Burton 28:22
Yeah. Since you haven't read it yet. You can't answer my question, but I'll come back to on this, which is then the war what?
Molly 28:29
Wow, that's Zinger. Yeah. Okay.
Matthew Amster-Burton 28:32
Yeah. Take that prize winning poet. Hmm. Our producer is Abby circuito. Ella. Molly has has a lovely newsletter called. I've got a feeling indeed. Yes. You can get to at Molly weisenberg.substack.com. Or just like, you know, hanging out outside the house where she used to live in Oklahoma City. And, like put up put a note in the mailbox. Yeah, it'll be like that. That movie the lake house. Oh, is
Molly 28:58
that the one where somebody's angrily chopping wood?
Matthew Amster-Burton 29:01
I haven't actually seen it. I just know. It's like a sort of like time travel romance with Keanu. And, oh, that's
Unknown Speaker 29:06
a different movie.
Molly 29:07
I'm thinking of Amityville Horror
Matthew Amster-Burton 29:10
or something like that. Very different.
Molly 29:13
I'm also thinking of the watcher. Did you see that show? No, you wouldn't know that sounds scary. Like Naomi Watts. And that other guy? Sure. Okay. You can read lots of that other guy. Yeah. You can rate and review us. Wherever you get your podcasts,
Matthew Amster-Burton 29:27
people people turn to us. You can see why people turn to us for entertainment news. Yeah, like they used to. Just stick to the obituaries for that.
Molly 29:36
Because the obituaries are a much more reliable source of health news. Exactly.
Matthew Amster-Burton 29:39
Yeah, please. Yeah, rate and review us hanging out with other Spielberg listeners at everything spilled. milk.reddit.com And until next time, thanks for listening to spilled milk. Tune in next week when the pizza rolls will have almost started to cool.
Molly 29:54
I'm Molly wise and Baron and I'm Matthew Amster-Burton.
Matthew Amster-Burton 29:56
I finally made it into Encyclopedia Britannica.
Molly 30:05
I was hoping we finally made it into Wikipedia because we've we've been such dutiful patrons
Matthew Amster-Burton 30:12
and such dutiful, dutiful. I mean, I mentioned in Wikipedia or at least I was at one point on the large page. Oh really? Yeah.
Molly 30:20
Oh my gosh. I wonder if you're still there. Oh no.