Gather round all ye who thirst for fruited bubbly water and put your cans together for this effervescent citrus beverage tasting. As we sample this spray of the ocean with a hint of mint straight from the cooler, Matthew transforms into a prepper with an accent before dunking on Dayton while Molly travels back to 1993.
Molly's Now but Wow! -Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler
Molly 0:04
Hi, I'm Molly,
Matthew Amster-Burton 0:05
and I'm Matthew,
Molly 0:06
and this is spilled milk, the show where we cook something delicious, eat it all, and you can't have any.
Matthew Amster-Burton 0:11
And today we're talking we're calling, wow, oh no,
Molly 0:15
that's right, these
Matthew Amster-Burton 0:16
were going so well. And today we're talking about spin drift.
Molly 0:20
Wow, I love how you said that spin drift.
Matthew Amster-Burton 0:23
We're talking about spin drift, gather round children,
Molly 0:29
all right. So, so yeah, we're talking about spin drift, which is that this is an American beverage company. They're mostly known for their sparkling water, and we'll talk more about it in a minute. But Matthew, have you? Have you ever had this stuff? Let's go down memory lane. I
Matthew Amster-Burton 0:45
have had it a couple of times. I'm aware that it's, like, currently a popular canned beverage, and so I've, like, been at someone's house and you're like, you know, I've got spindrifts in the fridge. And so I drank, like, a lemon or grapefruit spin drift, and I enjoyed it and then forgot about it again.
Molly 0:59
Great. Okay, I feel like I first saw these at Trader Joe's, before I saw them at any other retail I
Matthew Amster-Burton 1:06
think maybe I tasted it, like, as a free sample at Trader Joe's. I think when I first saw it, then when I say free sample, I mean I just like, like, pulled one off the shelf and just popped it open. That sounds
Molly 1:17
like you. I think when I first saw it at Trader Joe's, I thought maybe it was just sort of like a shitty replacement for, like a Lacroix or something, no, but it's got a little more going on than that, right? A lot more going on than that. And now you can find them kind of all over the place. In fact, I just so I just started seeing them at Grocery Outlet, which delightful to me to find them at grocery alley,
Matthew Amster-Burton 1:41
and when you saw them, you said, Ah, spin. Drift,
Molly 1:45
that's right. Anyway, my household drinks a lot of these, in part because my spouse doesn't really drink much alcohol. They just don't like it very much. However, Ash really does like flavored beverages, and they happen to love the grapefruit flavor, okay, drift,
Matthew Amster-Burton 2:01
so we have a lot of these at our house. Yeah, we have a real array of cans here.
Molly 2:06
We have seven different flavors. I'm
Matthew Amster-Burton 2:08
excited. Yeah, I'm
Molly 2:09
feeling pretty good about this. Before we dive in, let's just talk about what this stuff is, yes, please. So again, this is an American company. We'll get to the history in a second. But basically, the claim to fame with this sparkling water is that it uses actual fruit juice to flavor its products, rather than like the quote, unquote natural or like artificial flavors that other seltzers use, whether like polar seltzer or Lacroix or whatever, this, really, To me, tastes much more like actual fruit. And, yeah, if you look at what's in a can of this stuff, for instance, I'm looking at the blood orange tangerine. We've got carbonated water, blood orange juice, tangerine juice and citric acid. Okay, yeah, I'm
Matthew Amster-Burton 2:52
looking at the No heato flavor, and it's carbonated water, lime juice, mint.
Molly 2:56
That's it. Yeah, that's pretty it's pretty remarkable. I'm kind of like, really, how does it like? That's it's like,
Matthew Amster-Burton 3:01
genuinely, like, something I would make at home, because, like, sometimes we do usually keep plain sparkling water or club soda on hand, and I will often, like, squeeze a little lemon or lime into that. Well, it's
Molly 3:10
like, I don't know if you remember this, but when June was little, and she and I would go to Delancey a lot, and I would often order a Negroni, and she came to order a drink that she called angoni. I
Matthew Amster-Burton 3:24
don't remember what it is, but I definitely remember the word angoni. It
Molly 3:28
was just freshly squeezed grapefruit juice, which they always had at the bar, and fizzy water, nice. And she called it an angoni, and she loved it. And basically, the spindrift grapefruit is an angoni. December
Matthew Amster-Burton 3:42
lately has gotten really into there's a there's a non alcoholic bottled cocktail called the phony Negroni. That is really good.
Molly 3:48
I tried it. I didn't like it. I should try it again. Yeah, I liked it, all right. So another thing we'll probably notice about this is that because it has actual fruit juice in it, these sparkling waters are not clear, okay, yeah, I'm excited to see that. Yeah, they've got some color.
Matthew Amster-Burton 4:03
I'm really excited to see a non clear, sparkling one.
Molly 4:06
This is gonna be so exciting. So, Matthew, you mentioned that this seems like something you could make at home. And honestly, I don't know. I mean, I do believe the marketing copy that I read about this stuff. I even watched, like a YouTube video, okay, of the founder talking. So this company was founded in 2010, same year as our podcast, oh yeah, by a guy named Bill Creelman of Massachusetts.
Matthew Amster-Burton 4:30
Oh, who also founded our podcast, and we pushed him out. He apparently
Molly 4:33
was a big diet soda drinker, and he was looking for something to kind of kind of replace his diet soda habit. And he'd grown up on a farm in Western Massachusetts, and I think was a real believer in like, like, local food movements. This, this
Matthew Amster-Burton 4:47
sounds like the story that this guy would
Molly 4:49
tell, like, the story that this guy would tell, I know, I know. I don't know what to believe, but anyway, so so he so he got in touch with a hedge fund. He got in touch with a hedge fund. No, no, really. He started the company with, like. Four employees, and for the first two years, they did it all by hand, which also reminds me, but each bubble into the water No, reminds me of like the early years of Rachel's ginger beer. Yeah, absolutely, where Rachel and her partner Peters were literally juicing lemons and peeling ginger in the Delancey kitchen and then yeah and dragging it to farmers markets, right? Yes. So I do believe this guy that basically, when they first started out, they were juicing all the fruit by hand, because it is really difficult to find commercial purveyors of fresh, high quality fruit juices. Yeah, for the first couple years, apparently they did it all by hand while they tried to figure out kind of the supply chain issues with getting a lot of fresh fruit juice. They started out, actually, apparently, with making only sodas, which makes sense given that he was a big diet soda drinker. So they started out making something that was very much like the spindrift we know today, but it had cane sugar in it, so like a fruit soda. And then it was in 2012 so I guess two years on that they introduced the seltzer, and was it an immediate hit? I think it was a pretty immediate hit. I think that they first started selling both the soda and the seltzer in bottles. Then they switched to cans in 2014 and then in 2016 they just killed the entire soda line. Okay? To focus only on sparkling water. So I thought this was pretty interesting. Yeah, they secured a bunch of funding in like 2018 and that's when the company really started to take off. Eight years on, they went from something like eight employees at that point till like 105 so, yeah, this is a pretty young company, Where's, where's their family making pretty tasty stuff.
Matthew Amster-Burton 6:47
I think they're all over the country. Okay? It's distributed by spindrift sparkling water and Newton mass, yep.
Molly 6:51
Okay, okay, so let's start out tasting, yeah, these guys. Oh, and while we're doing that, I want to talk about what, spin drift. Oh,
Matthew Amster-Burton 7:00
yeah. What does it mean? So I think you mean spindrift. I'm gonna say it worse every time. So basically,
Molly 7:07
it's the spray that's blown up from like a wave when it crests Okay? That sounds exactly like what the word sounds like. Yeah. And it can also be a word for fine sand or snow that gets blown off the ground. Do
Matthew Amster-Burton 7:22
you think so? Like when, when they were talking about what to call it, someone said, why don't we call it Ocean Spray? And got bad news for you, buddy, but we could call it a synonym for Ocean Spray. That's
Molly 7:32
right. So basically, yeah, you're right. It is kind of the same word as Ocean Spray. How
Matthew Amster-Burton 7:36
should we cheese plate this? Let's list off the seven flavors we've got, and then you decide which one we're gonna taste first. We have grapefruit, nojita, which is mint and lime, half tea, half lemon, or what's his name? Arnold Palmer, what's his name? Raspberry, lime, mango, orange, pineapple and blood orange, tangerine.
Molly 7:56
I wanna say I didn't get some of the simplest kind of most basic ones, like lemon or lime because they truly taste like lemonade or limeade. Yeah,
Matthew Amster-Burton 8:05
I think maybe grapefruit first. I think we should start with like a classic. I'm pretty sure I've had this one before. Just to
Molly 8:11
put my my real thoughts right up front, I think this may be the best flavor. Oh, yeah. All right, so this has got kind of a pale, peachy,
Matthew Amster-Burton 8:22
yeah, it's got an attractive color. Oh yeah, that's pretty good. I
Molly 8:25
mean, after you have this, like, grapefruit, Lacroix starts to taste really terrible. I
Matthew Amster-Burton 8:29
was wondering, like, like, I figured like, this color would not look like this if it was just grapefruit juice with no preservatives, hibiscus added for
Molly 8:38
color. There we go, which is part that's grapefruit. I think that is pretty darn delicious. I
Matthew Amster-Burton 8:42
bet I'm gonna have to pee before we're done tasting seven letters. Let's
Molly 8:47
stay in the citrus department and let's go to blood orange tangerine. Okay, this one is new to me. I'm excited to see the color of this one. June suggested we get this one. She said that it is Brandon's favorite. So, blood orange, tangerine, hmm, it's tough to follow the grapefruit. I made tomato grapefruit.
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:06
I feel like this one wants a little sugar. It's got a lot of like, like, citrus zest, character to it. I
Molly 9:13
think I do get the blood orange, yeah, yeah. I think this one is suffering for coming after grapefruit. Yeah. Honestly, that's okay.
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:20
Like, yeah, if it had, if we weren't taking it just after grapefruit, and especially, like, if it was, I mean, it is a hot day, but, like, you know, if someone these, these are, like, designed for, like, to be taken out of a cooler, that's right, right, right? These want to be icy cold. Want to be icy cold. And we're drink, we're drinking them at a more and, like, nice, 130 degrees,
Molly 9:42
okay? Matthew, what should we do next?
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:44
Let's go. Let's go. Nojito, next, because it's another citrus,
Molly 9:48
okay, okay,
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:51
I'm excited for this one
Molly 9:53
I love. Yeah, this one I've never tasted, all the other ones I have tasted, never tasted this one. Oh, smell it.
Matthew Amster-Burton 9:58
Mm, hmm. Oh yeah,
Molly 10:00
I like it. You like that? It's got a little bit of a sprite vibe going, oh for sure, like Sprite with mint, Sprint, sprint. Oh, man, that's really refreshing. No, yeah,
Matthew Amster-Burton 10:10
no, this, this does taste like a, like, you know, a squeeze of lime club soda that I would make at home, but with a with a hint of mint. That's nice. That's nice. Who originated the phrase hint of mint? I guess. I guess it's as old as as mint, as old as the English language itself.
Molly 10:26
I'm gonna rinse my my cup, rinse my mouth. I think we should veer off and we should do the half and half.
Matthew Amster-Burton 10:32
All right, let's do it well. I mean, that makes sense, because it like keeps one foot in the world of citrus and plants one one small step for tea.
Molly 10:43
Yeah, all right. This one has a lovely little pale iced tea color. Oh, it smells good. This one is half iced tea and half lemonade. This really smells like an Arnold Palmer. And I should say all of these are unsweetened.
Matthew Amster-Burton 10:57
Interesting. The tea, the tea is strong. With this
Molly 11:00
one, the tea is strong. I feel like this has too much lemon flavor. That's my feeling interesting. I want less lemon flavor
Matthew Amster-Burton 11:07
like you get, you do get, like, a lot of the acidity on the on the backwash. Yeah. What do they call it, like when you, when you drink the what do they what's a fancy word for aftertaste that, like wine tasters would use, oh, the the back end,
Molly 11:24
the the back end, the maybe the back end,
Matthew Amster-Burton 11:27
yeah, let's go back. Okay, so, yeah, what do you think I I see what you're saying. But I think for me, it has a good balance. Like, like, when I drink an Arnold Palmer, like, I want it to be, like, very tart and lemony and, yeah, like, I think,
Molly 11:42
what do you think about this?
Matthew Amster-Burton 11:44
I like it. I would, I would drink more of this. I think it's a really, like, good beverage. Yeah, I wonder how they get the tea flavor in. Let's see what the ingredients? Oh, yeah, carbonated water, lemon juice, brewed black tea, they probably make like a strong, strongly brewed tea. And interestingly, there's a little, there's a little thing on the label that says less caffeine than two ounces of coffee, so it has some caffeine. Okay, oh, I get real tea.
Molly 12:08
I think we should go mango, Orange.
Matthew Amster-Burton 12:13
Okay. Again, one foot in the citrus world. Yeah, you may notice I think only one of these has no citrus.
Molly 12:21
And this makes sense, because citrus and citrus and sparkling water are a natural pair. So this one is the mango orange.
Matthew Amster-Burton 12:33
Hmm, do I like this?
Molly 12:35
Imagine it we're a little colder. I feel like it needs to be a little bit colder. I mean, it's, it's straight out of the fridge, but I'm gonna get some ice cubes. Okay, great. Get some ice cubes. I'm gonna pour a little bit more into my cup so that I can truly consume it with the ice.
Matthew Amster-Burton 12:52
There we go. Not
Molly 12:53
sure that helped. No,
Matthew Amster-Burton 12:55
I think I said this about one of the previous ones. I don't remember which one like I feel like unsweetened mango just, it just wants a little bit of sugar. And, like, I understand what they're that that is, like, not their brand, but, like, a little bit of sugar, I think would make this really tasty.
Molly 13:12
You said that about the blood orange tangerine as well? Yeah, no, I'm
Matthew Amster-Burton 13:16
not, not a fan of the mango orange. Okay,
Molly 13:18
we're gonna go raspberry lime. Okay, yeah, I'm
Matthew Amster-Burton 13:20
curious how the raspberries is gonna come through.
Molly 13:23
I often dislike berry flavored beverages. How
Matthew Amster-Burton 13:28
do you feel about buried treasure?
Molly 13:30
I love buried treasure.
Matthew Amster-Burton 13:42
When you were a kid, you know how, like, kids think quicksand is gonna be, like a real thing that you might run into, and then at some point you realize that's not, did you did you ever feel like there was a chance that maybe you might, like find a treasure map at some point? Never, I, for sure, did really. Oh yeah,
Molly 13:58
that's so sweet. Okay, Matthew, I'm gonna say I really like this. Yeah,
Matthew Amster-Burton 14:02
I'm totally down with this.
Molly 14:04
I have occasionally bought this one, and have really enjoyed it, like color and, yeah, like with my like, I don't know, a little afternoon pick me up, kind of situation. I've enjoyed this that said it sometimes makes my mouth feel a little weird.
Matthew Amster-Burton 14:19
But do actual raspberries make your mouth feel a little weird? I think they do. Yeah, they do a little bit. You're right. You're right. So as long as it's authentic mouth weirdness, I'm fine with it.
Molly 14:29
It's, it's maybe like, I feel like it's almost like a tannin kind of, yeah,
Matthew Amster-Burton 14:33
I was gonna say that, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if raspberries were a little astringent. Okay, now we're gonna, we're gonna finish up with with you, like, give me a little wash here. Yeah, little, like a sponge bath.
Molly 14:47
Okay, now we've got pineapple. Okay, I'm
Matthew Amster-Burton 14:50
excited for this one. I've been waiting for this. Oh, yeah, I've been waiting. I've been waiting six cans for this. It's a long time. Oh, this one has, like, a foamy head, which none of the. There's dead there must be some sort of, like, saponifiers in the pineapple juice.
Molly 15:05
Hmm, what do you think?
Matthew Amster-Burton 15:06
I think I like it? Oh, yeah, I
Molly 15:08
love that. Yeah, yeah. But so, like, you know, I don't want this to just be one of those episodes where we agree about everything, but I gotta say, Matthew, I think this is a really good product.
Matthew Amster-Burton 15:19
I for the most part, I do too. Like, it's not something that I'm gonna, like, keep around because, like, I said, like, I think I said this off, off Mike, that, like, I just don't drink things other than water that often, because I love water. In fact, I teased this last week that I've got a reverse memory lane for this episode. Oh, yeah. So So for many, many years, like, off and on, like, like, Watson and I have been like, do we shouldn't we have, like, an emergency kit around the house, which we don't at all. So we talked about it again the other day, and usually I'm the problem. I'd be like, I don't want to deal with that. It
Molly 15:55
also something, and I feel dumb saying this, but it's expensive to pull all that together, right?
Matthew Amster-Burton 16:00
So, so he decided was, let's, like, start, you know, let's do one thing to start, and let's have some emergency water on hand in case, like, the water went out, yes. And so we, like, looked into it, and we're like, okay, like, the best way to store water is in cans, because they last forever, and bottled water gets weird pretty quickly. Oh, I didn't know that so, so we ordered canned still water online. I think it was 24 cans for like, $46 and hopefully we won't need it, but it, but it's good for at least 50 years. Wow. Okay,
Molly 16:39
I didn't notice. I have like, a couple gallons of water sitting around, but those does that not last very long. You can
Matthew Amster-Burton 16:47
find lots of different information about, like, how long it's safe to store water in plastic or other containers. Okay, you know it'll start tasting weird long before it's actually unsafe to drink. Okay. So,
Molly 16:59
okay, all right, you're probably fine. So okay, one thing that recently came to my attention is that, I guess spindrift has started making a oh, god no. Matthew has just poured some of the dump bucket, not a spit bucket, but a dump bucket, into his cup. I wouldn't recommend that. No, what does it taste like?
Matthew Amster-Burton 17:22
It tastes kind of like, you know how when you're color brown, yeah, when you're in your like, mix all the paints together, you're like, I am the, I'm the great artist. Like, I'm gonna invent a new color never before seen by humankind. Like, oh, it's brown. It was kind of grayish brown. It tastes, it tastes like that. But, like, it's not terrible, okay, like, it's not, have you seen the movie Sideways? Yes, where he, like, drinks, the spit bucket. I forgot anybody's like, you know, having, having a bit of a hard time. I wanted to, I wanted to do that. Okay, well, cool. I'm happy. I tried to live my life, trying to be as much like Paul Giamatti in sideways as possible. You
Molly 17:59
should be like Paul Giamatti in singles, you should go to Virginia Inn and basically, like, eat a woman's face.
Matthew Amster-Burton 18:05
Okay, you're on.
Molly 18:08
Oh, God. Oh, that scene is so good anyway, okay,
Matthew Amster-Burton 18:12
oh, man, it's been way too long since I've seen that movie. It's probably been like, six years. I
Molly 18:16
just bought it for 799 because I was like, Okay, I'm gonna I introduced June to it. I was like, I'm gonna watch this many more times in my life. So instead of paying 399 for the rent, yeah, I'm gonna shell out and I'm gonna own it. Okay, you know what? I will too. It's really good. Yeah? Okay, anyway, Matthew, it was recently brought to my attention that spindrift is getting on the, like, alcoholic seltzer bandwagon, that doesn't surprise me, and put an illustration here. Well, yeah, because I was talking to to a friend of mine who has kids similar to June's age, and her kids really love spindrift. And she was saying the can looks exactly the same or something, and she was worried that, like, doesn't the youth would would mistake the the spindrift spiked for regular spin drift. It does not look anything,
Matthew Amster-Burton 19:08
not at all like the youth. Youth will try and, like, get away with Drake. Oh, sure, sure, sure. So
Molly 19:13
I have to say, in general, I mean, you remember our white claw episode or our hard seltzer episode? Kind of remember it. I don't like the taste of that stuff. Nah. I don't think I'm ever going to be a hard seltzer person. But you know, if I ever encounter the spiked version of spindrift, I'm up for trying it. Just kind of put that out there. Yeah. And in
Matthew Amster-Burton 19:34
the, in the picture that you shared here, it's got, we've got blood orange, tangerine, lemon and grapefruit flavors, and presumably some others. Anyway,
Molly 19:41
there are a few flavors we didn't taste today. Okay, let's hear 'em. They're out there, you know. So we didn't taste lemon, we didn't taste lime, we didn't taste pink lemonade. It sounds like you're starting a poem. We didn't taste lemon, we didn't taste lime, we didn't taste pink lemonade, we didn't taste strawberry lemonade. Turns out, this is not a poem. It's. Long. We didn't taste lemon limeade. We didn't taste mango green tea or peach, strawberry or grape aid. Grape aid, that's always like graver lemonade. As of August 2024 grape aid is a new flavor, okay? And I'm kind of interested in it. Do you know if it's grape lemonade, or if it's just grape I think it's just great. Okay, then they also have a new flavor they're calling Island punch, which is basically passion fruit, guava. I think that's delicious. And then as of August, they they've got a Blackberry Limited
Matthew Amster-Burton 20:35
Edition. I'm curious about this mango green tea, because I love green tea. I don't usually like green tea mixed with fruit flavors, but like, I kind of want them to do like a just like sparkling green tea flavor. I bet that could be very refreshing, yeah, because the black tea came across really well.
Molly 20:51
I would love to hear from any listeners who've tried the spindrift spiked product, yeah, if I don't like hard seltzer in general, because it always tastes like weird. Does this stuff taste weird? Or does it just taste like spin drift with, I don't know, spindrift with vodka, vodka, yeah, or something I don't know. Probably. Anyway, Matthew, do you have anything to add? No, I
Matthew Amster-Burton 21:13
really enjoyed this. Like, I like, how this, this lineup of, I was gonna say empty cans, but like, two thirds, full cans. Looks on my table. It's the branding is really good. The branding is very good. Like this, this, you know, this pineapple can. It's like, beautiful blue and white with, like, a nice little cartoon pineapple. Like, you know, it makes me want to pick this up, and I'm going to pick this up and I'm going to drink some more of it right now. Oh, great. Now I feel like I this is not a sponsored episode. No,
Molly 21:42
this is not a sponsored episode. This is just like a quite tasty beverage. Yep, I'm pleased with it. All right, Matthew, we've
Matthew Amster-Burton 21:48
got some spilled mail. Would you like to hear it? Yes, please.
This is from listener, Carla. I actually am on tenterhooks to hear what you think about a good German potato salad. Buckle up. I'm about to write you a damn book. Wow. And I've edited this down significantly, really cut. This is still really long. All right, so, okay, apparently we said on the potato salad episode that at least I think I had never had German potato salad, but it sounded good. Have you had German potato salad, like the warm one with vinegar and bacon
Molly 22:25
and onions? I think I may have had. Yeah.
Matthew Amster-Burton 22:29
I live north of Dayton, Ohio, and am a proud member of Dayton's oldest German club. There are actually three in the greater Dayton area, and we serve what I will wager is the best potato salad. Our club's annual German fest picnic is coming up in August. You missed it, and it is literally, as the SpongeBob character says, a three day or more process that involves an entire team of dedicated people. It starts with fluffing, separating chopped, thin, sliced bacon and frying an ungodly amount of quality bacon from our local butcher shop shout out to DOT's meat market. This actually starts February or April, as the bacon and grease are frozen to be used for all of our events, where we sell potato salad with the picnic being the largest. Whoa, the week of the picnic, hundreds of pounds of potatoes are purchased, peeled and snibbled, eyes removed and cut into the appropriate size pieces. I've not helped with this, as it's typically done by the retirees while us young folks are working. They are then boiled in huge vats in our commercial kitchen, in the wrath scaler and or on propane burners in the parking lot. Wait, what's a wrath scaler? I, at one point, I knew the answer to that question, and I don't remember it's, it's like a German kitchen. Okay? Maybe it's German for kitchen.
Molly 23:38
I don't think so. I don't. Okay, go ahead, that's Kuchen, right?
Matthew Amster-Burton 23:43
The bacon, potatoes, onion, vinegar, sugar and secret spice blend are mixed together and tasted slash approved by our head of food operation, operations, who learned the recipe from the little old German ladies who came before her. People come from all over the area to get our potato salad. It is a true labor of love and absolutely delicious. It uses a lot of white vinegar, but it's perfectly balanced with a savory bacon and mild sweetness from the perfectly cooked onions and tiny bit of sugar. Ooh. If you ever have reason to be in our neck of the woods the second week of August, come see me in the big white tent. They promoted me this year. I have to carry a walkie talkie and everything. Listener,
Molly 24:15
Carla, oh. Listener, Carla,
Matthew Amster-Burton 24:18
isn't that great now chapter two, oh,
Molly 24:19
you know what we should be so we should be doing our spilled milk corporate retreat in Dayton, Ohio.
Matthew Amster-Burton 24:25
I would love that.
Molly 24:26
I would love that too.
Matthew Amster-Burton 24:28
I did nothing about it except for potato salad. And as you know, I mean, and I mean this as not, no, I'm not dunking on Dayton. It sounds like a boring place, and that's generally where I have enjoy our retreats the most. It's
Molly 24:40
true. It's true. Matthew is still talking about our retreat in Oklahoma City. It was wonderful. It was I truly came to enjoy my home city in a way I never had before. Okay. Listener, Carla, thank you so much,
Matthew Amster-Burton 24:54
Molly. Do you have a now? But wow,
Molly 24:56
I sure do you?
This is a book that came out in 1993 that is totally acceptable. Finally getting around to reading it.
Matthew Amster-Burton 25:11
It's our Carla's book about German potato salad.
Molly 25:15
No, so the book is Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler.
Matthew Amster-Burton 25:20
I haven't read it. I should. Yes. How do you feel about dystopia? First of all, I live in one every day, and I love it here. It could get so much more dystopic. I think I like a dystopia. Okay,
Molly 25:32
so this is least, this is the book that I have always thought of first when I think of Octavia Butler's work. So this book takes place, actually. It begins in 2024 so a lot of people were talking about it this past summer, right? So the book takes place in, in the wake of, or maybe we should say, in the midst of, a climate catastrophe. There's not enough water, tremendous poverty, tremendous suffering and and life is very dangerous. We are following this young girl as she tries to find her way to a different kind of world. It is very scary, okay, in the way that books that feel too real are very scary, and it is also a tremendous page turner. Gives me so much to think about. And it's also just like a really fantastic story with a fantastic female lead, a black female lead. I should say It's wonderful if you haven't read it, this is the time don't be like me and buy it and let it sit around for like five years. Okay?
Matthew Amster-Burton 26:39
Parable of the Sower. By Octavia Butler, that's right. Our producer is Abby sercatella.
Molly 26:44
You can chat with other spilled milk listeners at everything spilled milk.reddit.com.
Matthew Amster-Burton 26:48
Yeah, maybe you can put your heads together and come up with a new spin drift flavor that is created by pouring two existing ones together. Ooh, I can't wait. Put your heads together. Put your cans together. That's right, and until next time I'm
Molly 27:06
I'm no Hito,
Matthew Amster-Burton 27:09
Sure you are. Oh, I think you said here, I'm Matthew Esther Burton,
Unknown Speaker 27:16
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Matthew Amster-Burton 27:24
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Molly 27:25
can't check it. Check it, check it, check it, check check, can
Matthew Amster-Burton 27:29
you hear me? Now, I can hear me now.
Molly 27:31
I can hear you now, okay.
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